DV Willow Canyon Lost Campers Found

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4 years 11 months ago #1227 by D.A. Wright
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A tragedy for sure. They were experienced desert campers, and being from southern Arizona they are used to the heat, but unprepared for Death Valley.

I’m not clear on where their Subaru was found. I’ve been into Gold Valley to the end of the road at Willow Creek, and I doubt it made it over the summit from Greenwater Valley as that road, though not technical, I’d consider way to rough for a Subaru.

Given that, I’d think that today that they would have had a good chance for a cell phone signal. In late October, 2002, I camped for two nights and spent three days exploring the Greenwater townsites and Gold Valley. I camped atop a prominent set of tailings at Furnace the first night, at the Ramsey townsite of Greenwater the second night. I had a strong cell phone signal both nights and placed several phone calls without dropped calls.

In any case, they unfortunately made a deadly choice of direction to go for help. As mentioned, they could have simply made an easy walk back to the Dante’s View road, or ten miles south to CA178 or 17 miles into Shoshone. I don’t know if they had any reference to determine their elevation, but to drop over 5,000 feet in elevation loss between the summit between Greenwater and Gold Valley to Mormon Point in a short horizontal distance equal a severely steep slope and slow going at best, a technical rope work challenge at worst.

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5 years 1 week ago #1223 by genocache
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Once came across an apparently abandoned Jeep down between the Briggs mine and Goler wash with a flat. The spare was good so we changed it for them. Never saw a person there.

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5 years 1 week ago #1222 by David_Bricker
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The only time I've used my tire plugs have been for others. At this point, I've probably gone through 40 plugs in 15 years. I've been lucky, but also have run a minimum of Load Range C tires.

A few times, we've plugged tires on cars that have been abandoned, with no notes on them as to where the owners were. I've always wondered what folks have thought to return to tires that are no longer flat.

David Bricker / SYR

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5 years 1 week ago #1219 by sunvalleyjoe
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I live on the outskirts of Black Rock desert. Have helped many people with vehicle problems over the years. Either they have a flat or low on gas. Best to let some one know your plans and stay with ur vehicle. DV gets patrolled quite often by park service. Most of us on this forum have quite a bit of off road experience and have the vehicles made to travel it. GBA!!SVJ

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5 years 1 week ago #1218 by Bellczar
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Here is a newspaper opinion piece about this tragedy by the editor of a Central Valley newspaper:

www.mantecabulletin.com/opinion/local-co...s-died-death-valley/

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5 years 1 week ago #1217 by sunvalleyjoe
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sad ending. I still have a cb radio . you have to be prepared have seen many people with flat tires in 50 years of DV traveling. 4 or 5 years ago couple had flat tire on Saline road the had reg p rated tires and driving too fast tires had quite a bit of milage on them(almost no tread left). My friend from LP lent them his spare as theirs was flat also. We led them to Millers and they replaced 3 almost bald tires.AAA map is great carry 2 in my pu.

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